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	<title>Comments on: Music Like Water &#8211; Forbes Article Reprised</title>
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		<title>By: Plutopia &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Google and music</title>
		<link>http://digitalcowboys.com/2008/03/31/music-like-water-forbes-article-reprise/#comment-418</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Plutopia &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Google and music]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 23:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sandrar</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi! I was surfing and found your blog post... nice! I love your blog.  :) Cheers! Sandra. R.]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 06:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 21:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Alexwebmaster</title>
		<link>http://digitalcowboys.com/2008/03/31/music-like-water-forbes-article-reprise/#comment-414</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 08:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: La RIAA rinuncia a perseguire i download illegali di musica: ci penseranno gli ISP &#124; 0.2</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[La RIAA rinuncia a perseguire i download illegali di musica: ci penseranno gli ISP &#124; 0.2]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 19:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] il &#8220;music like water&#8221;, musica come acqua, che fine ha [...] ]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 12:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Peter Blue</title>
		<link>http://digitalcowboys.com/2008/03/31/music-like-water-forbes-article-reprise/#comment-411</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 10:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m an independent artist from Germany. I get publishing royalties from GEMA, as well as recording rights licenses from GVL for airplay.
I know how difficult it is to track actual plays / downloads. If a radio station is only small, these companies don&#039;t track the single plays; rather an overall fee is paid and then distributed among all artist in relation to their overall income.
That simple means, that independent artist that are present on small stations won&#039;t get paid.  The money goes to the big names in the business.

It would need an excellent system to really pay all artists for their actual plays / downloads.

The experience with former mp3.com (does anybody remember?)shows that such a system attracts the cheaters. As mp3.com paid artists for their amount of plays / downloads, tricky people developed robots that generated huge amounts of plays / downloads. This finally destroyed that system.

I wouldn&#039;t mind a &quot;music utility&quot; if it would be good for independent artists as well.
But who will control the system? I fear it will be controlled by the music industry.
That would be the worst that could happen - monopoly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m an independent artist from Germany. I get publishing royalties from GEMA, as well as recording rights licenses from GVL for airplay.<br />
I know how difficult it is to track actual plays / downloads. If a radio station is only small, these companies don&#8217;t track the single plays; rather an overall fee is paid and then distributed among all artist in relation to their overall income.<br />
That simple means, that independent artist that are present on small stations won&#8217;t get paid.  The money goes to the big names in the business.</p>
<p>It would need an excellent system to really pay all artists for their actual plays / downloads.</p>
<p>The experience with former mp3.com (does anybody remember?)shows that such a system attracts the cheaters. As mp3.com paid artists for their amount of plays / downloads, tricky people developed robots that generated huge amounts of plays / downloads. This finally destroyed that system.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t mind a &#8220;music utility&#8221; if it would be good for independent artists as well.<br />
But who will control the system? I fear it will be controlled by the music industry.<br />
That would be the worst that could happen &#8211; monopoly.</p>
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		<title>By: Volume Eleven &#8212; Week in Review: 30 March - 6 April</title>
		<link>http://digitalcowboys.com/2008/03/31/music-like-water-forbes-article-reprise/#comment-410</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Volume Eleven &#8212; Week in Review: 30 March - 6 April]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Music as a service. People should pay for their music the way they pay for gas or electricity. [...] ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Music as a service. People should pay for their music the way they pay for gas or electricity. [...] </p>
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		<title>By: bulletholes</title>
		<link>http://digitalcowboys.com/2008/03/31/music-like-water-forbes-article-reprise/#comment-409</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 19:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here’s What They’re Really Planning:

The tax will not, in fact, be mandatory. But that is misleading - it won’t be mandatory for ISPs who provide Internet access to actual users. But if ISPs join the scheme, it will apply to all of their customers and be added to their bill as a surcharge.

Why will ISP’s agree to this? Mainly to avoid liability. The core of the plan is a covenant not to sue anyone who pays the fee. Griffin touched on this in the article, saying ISPs will want to “discharge their risk” around file sharing that occurs over their networks.

The rollout plan will hit colleges and universities first, who will simply add the fee to tuition bills so they won’t have to worry about getting dragged into lawsuits. Then Griffin will approach consumer ISPs. If an ISP joins, their users will not have the option of not paying, even if they don’t download music from the Internet. So, basically, the tax is only voluntary if you define avoiding it as not going to college, or using the Internet.

The advertising-supported option is likely a red herring to satisfy critics, and would be dumped before the project launches. It just isn’t feasibly to try to aim advertising at users who are downloading music from BitTorrent and putting it on their iPod. There’s no touch point to force advertising down their throat.

So the plan essentially comes down to telling ISPs that they can avoid any copyright infringement liability if they pay the fee on behalf of customers. And while the government wouldn’t be directly involved, the willingness of law enforcement agencies and the judicial system to enforce civil and criminal copyright infringement laws is the stick by which Griffin will convince ISPs to jump on board. It’s government endorsed extortion, nothing more and nothing less.

The effects on innovation in music would be disastrous if such a scheme were ever to become reality. It’s clearly good for the music labels, who are facing their imminent extinction. For everyone else, though, this is the worst possible thing that could happen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here’s What They’re Really Planning:</p>
<p>The tax will not, in fact, be mandatory. But that is misleading &#8211; it won’t be mandatory for ISPs who provide Internet access to actual users. But if ISPs join the scheme, it will apply to all of their customers and be added to their bill as a surcharge.</p>
<p>Why will ISP’s agree to this? Mainly to avoid liability. The core of the plan is a covenant not to sue anyone who pays the fee. Griffin touched on this in the article, saying ISPs will want to “discharge their risk” around file sharing that occurs over their networks.</p>
<p>The rollout plan will hit colleges and universities first, who will simply add the fee to tuition bills so they won’t have to worry about getting dragged into lawsuits. Then Griffin will approach consumer ISPs. If an ISP joins, their users will not have the option of not paying, even if they don’t download music from the Internet. So, basically, the tax is only voluntary if you define avoiding it as not going to college, or using the Internet.</p>
<p>The advertising-supported option is likely a red herring to satisfy critics, and would be dumped before the project launches. It just isn’t feasibly to try to aim advertising at users who are downloading music from BitTorrent and putting it on their iPod. There’s no touch point to force advertising down their throat.</p>
<p>So the plan essentially comes down to telling ISPs that they can avoid any copyright infringement liability if they pay the fee on behalf of customers. And while the government wouldn’t be directly involved, the willingness of law enforcement agencies and the judicial system to enforce civil and criminal copyright infringement laws is the stick by which Griffin will convince ISPs to jump on board. It’s government endorsed extortion, nothing more and nothing less.</p>
<p>The effects on innovation in music would be disastrous if such a scheme were ever to become reality. It’s clearly good for the music labels, who are facing their imminent extinction. For everyone else, though, this is the worst possible thing that could happen.</p>
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